I’ve been thinking about character lineups recently, and was wondering if there was a way to create a good character lineup automatically using maths.
I had a bit of spare time, so I decided to give it a go.
Getting the data was pretty straightforward, as the raw data from swdestinydb is available online. Making the character combos was also pretty easy. I wrote a program to build every possible character combination under 30 points (there’s 541,355 combinations in standard, in case you were wondering).
But how to score characters?
Their dice: I scored dice based on the values and symbols on the dice:
Resource: 2 points (as 1 resource is worth about 2 damage, e.g. Field Medic, Lightsaber Throw etc).
Special I have given 2 points (as very broadly a special tends to be worth about 1 resource or 2 damage, with notable exceptions like legacies Yoda).
Ranged/melee/focus: 1 point.
Shield: 0.8, Indirect: 0.7, Disrupt/discard: 0.5
If the side is a modifier side, I’ve halved it’s value (as you’ll probably only be able to resolve these sides half the time). If a die has a cost, I take two off the side for each resource cost. This means that 2 ranged for 1 resource sides I am saying are worth nothing. I’m OK with this.
Abilities: I decided to ignore most abilities. There’s just too many abilities out there to score. I have made exceptions for two-player Kylo, Snoke, Cassian, and legacies Yoda (owing to his above curve special). I’ve also boosted any decks with 3PO and R2 together to account for their abilities. Finally, I dropped the value of WotF Jabba’s specials to 1.5 (about 2 indirect), as he was dominating the results otherwise owing to his very good other dice sides (2F, 1R, 1R).
I then multiplied my score by health, as if a character has twice as much health, you are likely to get value out of their dice for twice as long.
I now have a score for every character. According to my model, the strongest character in the game, accounting for points cost, is Vader (AtG), followed by Jabba (WotF) thanks to his good dice sides, Legacies Yoda, Snoke, SoH Yoda, Lando and Finn (post Balance of the Force).
That done, I now can calculate a score for each character lineup (doubling die scores when a character is elite).
And the results?
According to my model, the best deck you can build is…
First Order Stormtrooper-eVader. In fact, the top 4 decks are eVader decks (FOST, Greedo, Clawdite then Jawa).
OK, so that’s not particularly interesting. Vader is a powerhouse, with huge melee sides plus that 2 resource side, so I shouldn’t be too surprised (though it’s nice that my model is creating sensible decks). Also, my model does not take into account strategies – it’s all about raw power, which is Vader in a nutshell.
Here are the top 20 decks:
lineup | points | health | score | affiliation |
FOST-eDarth Vader | 30 | 22 | 450 | villain |
Greedo-eDarth Vader | 30 | 22 | 442.3 | villain |
Clawdite-eDarth Vader | 29 | 21 | 435.6 | villain |
Jawa-eDarth Vader | 29 | 21 | 435 | villain |
eAayla Secura-eYoda(SoH) | 30 | 22 | 432 | hero |
Battle Droid-eDarth Vader | 29 | 21 | 426.6 | villain |
eKylo Ren-eSnoke | 30 | 23 | 423.8 | villain |
eFinn-eLando Calrissian | 29 | 22 | 418 | hero |
ePoe Dameron-eLando Calrissian | 30 | 22 | 415.8 | hero |
eKit Fisto-eLando Calrissian | 30 | 22 | 415.8 | hero |
eJabba The Hutt-eDarth Vader(CM) | 29 | 24 | 415.2 | villain |
eJabba The Hutt-eHan Solo | 29 | 23 | 415 | villain |
eYoda(SoH)-eHan Solo | 30 | 22 | 414 | hero |
eYoda(L)-eLando Calrissian | 28 | 21 | 413.8 | hero |
eSnoke-eIG-88 | 30 | 23 | 411.8 | villain |
eYoda-eBail Organa | 30 | 22 | 410 | hero |
eFifth Brother-eJabba The Hutt | 30 | 24 | 408 | villain |
eZeb Orrelios-eLando Calrissian | 29 | 23 | 405 | hero |
eLando Calrissian-eHan Solo | 30 | 22 | 404.8 | hero |
eAayla Secura-eBo-Katan Kryze | 30 | 22 | 403.2 | hero |
Sitting in at number 11, is eJabba/eVader(CM). That Vader has 2 special sides to boost Jabba’s special. I’ve enjoyed playing with Jabba since he was balanced, and this deck looks like it could be fun (once Covert Missions finally drops).
There’s a few more combos which interest me and I might give a go at, such as Snoke/IG-88 and Yoda(L)/Lando (with 2 points left over for double down). This model also suggests combinations like Yoda(SoH)/Bail and Kylo/Snoke which have been popular.
All the top decks are two wide. Here’s the top 10 if I force my model to only show me 3 wide results:
lineup | points | health | score | affiliation |
Anakin Skywalker-eYoda-eSatine Kryze | 30 | 26 | 380.3 | hero |
Gungan Warrior-eFinn-eSatine Kryze | 30 | 26 | 364.6 | hero |
Vigilant Jedi-eAayla Secura-eSatine Kryze | 30 | 27 | 363.6 | hero |
Clawdite Shapeshifter-eFinn-eSatine Kryze | 30 | 26 | 361 | hero |
Jar Jar Binks-eYoda-eSatine Kryze | 30 | 26 | 360.7 | hero |
Gungan Warrior-eYoda-eSatine Kryze | 29 | 25 | 360.4 | hero |
Rebel Engineer-eAayla Secura-eSatine Kryze | 30 | 27 | 360.4 | hero |
Rose-eAayla Secura-eSatine Kryze | 30 | 28 | 358.8 | hero |
Kashyyk Warrior-eAayla Secura-eSatine Kryze | 30 | 29 | 356.2 | hero |
Gungan Warrior-eCassian Andor-eSatine Kryze | 30 | 25 | 354.4 | hero |
Some of those don’t look half bad. They’re all hero, which is interesting. I guess hero has more good little guys. They also all feature Satine who, I think most people agree, is a bit under-costed.
Now I’ve got a program that makes me lineups, I can tweak the weights and ask it questions.
What if I all I want is focus, resource and damage sides? I can change the weightings to only value these sides, downgrade indirect a little, and this changes things up a bit. My new best character is Kit Fisto (balanced to 15 points elite), and my new top lineups are:
lineup | points | health | score | affiliation |
First Order Stormtrooper-eDarth Vader | 30 | 22 | 368.5 | villain |
eKylo Ren-eSnoke | 30 | 23 | 360.2 | villain |
eKallus-eIden Versio | 30 | 24 | 360 | villain |
Greedo-eDarth Vader | 30 | 22 | 355.2 | villain |
eKit Fisto-eTarfful | 29 | 22 | 352 | hero |
eMace Windu-eTarfful | 30 | 22 | 352 | hero |
eKes Dameron-eTarfful | 30 | 22 | 352 | hero |
eKit Fisto-eLando Calrissian | 30 | 21 | 343.2 | hero |
eZeb Orrelios-eKit Fisto | 29 | 21 | 343 | hero |
Which mostly look kind of fun.
What if I want to play Snoke, and want the most aggro characters possible to pair with him, and don’t care if they have pay sides. This gives me the decks:
Battle Droid-eTrandoshan-eSnoke | 30 | 25 | 350.3 | villain |
Veteran Stormtrooper-Greedo-eSnoke | 30 | 26 | 348 | villain |
Mudtrooper-eTrandoshan-Snoke | 30 | 27 | 346.5 | villain |
I do like the look of the last one.
Models like mine are never going to produce combinations and strategies as those created by real players, but hopefully there’s some inspiration there for new ideas.
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